Episode 18: Jaspered

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Show Notes

Where's Christine? No one seems to know.

Totally Awesome Twilight Time
-TwiFic Acronym List
-Fans and Fandoms: Personality, Sexuality and Community
-The Indie Twific Awards!
-Voting for the 'You're Never Too Young To Write' Contest (Two hosts are nominated)
-Real Person Fiction Big Bang Challenge
-Twilight Body Swapping Contest
-Fictionators a new recommendation blog
-The Age of Edward One-Shot Contest

Listenen Emails
-Bella and feminism

-Casual Computers
-How tall is....

Fic of the Week - When Darkness Turns to Light by Janna Banana
-Only two of us have read it

Main Disuscussion - Jasper's rising presence
-is the fandom tired of Edward?
-Danielle and Claire...agree?
-Jasper/Bella, Jasper/Edward and even (gasp!) Jaser/Alice
-and then they disagree again.

Caitlin lost (and found) her purple pen three times during the recording and editing of this show.

Music Game
-'The Minnow and the Trout' by A Fine Frenzy
-'Since You've Been Gone' by Kelly Clarkson
-'Crazy' by Aerosmith
-'Boulevard of Broken Dreams' by Green Day
-'Foundations' by Kate Nash

What Are We Reading This Week?

Dear Fandom, Christine doesn't like your screen names, please fix it.

Stories Mentioned This Week

-The Teenage Angst Brigade by jandco
-Mischevious by Adair7
-Breathe by Adair7
-When Darkness Turns to Light by Janna Banana
-Comfortable by Isabel0329
-The Arrangement by manyafandom
-An Unexpected Life by tekne
-Hi Honey, I'm Home by jandco
-Darkside of the Moon by Blondie
-Bella and the Billionaire by nashstheory
-Hydraulic Level 5 by Gondolier
-Smut Mondays by Various Authors
-Naughty Girl by Bondgirl
-Fatal Temptation by Koinaka
-Burn for Me by Ustione
-A Life Extraordinary by LolaShoes
-Let Your Light Shine by LolaShoes
-If Love Could Light a Candle by Pastiche Pen
-The Edge by fembuck
-Nothing Left to Lose by SarahJayne

11 Responses to "Episode 18: Jaspered"

Anonymous Says :
May 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM

'Dear Fandom, Christine doesn't like your screen names, please fix it.'


Pastiche Pen Says :
May 28, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Jasper characterizations make me laugh.

The same guy who is covered in scars and would have made the decision to coldly leave Bella in the field in Eclipse somehow is all teddy-bear cute and sweet in most AH fics.


Oh, and I love you guys.

And dude, if not Jake or Edward, I'm with Claire 100%. I'd go for Emmett.

Maria(mialuvtwilight) Says :
May 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM

WEll great episode guys, and wow i never even thought about reading a non canon pairing stroy but when darkness turns to light sounds really good, but i guess i'll see because i am very e/b and a/j. And i agree with Claire Emmett is just awesome, great episode and great that everyone was there!

Anonymous Says :
May 29, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Umm...I'm only a few minutes in, but I have to agree with how Alice gets totally SCREWED in almost every fic. Why do people do that to her?!?!

Struck Upon A Star Says :
May 29, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Hi there,

I listen to your podcast all the time, but I've never commented before--sorry! The Jasper discussion intrigues me because I've always been a Jasper lover and a Jasper fic writer. I want to submit an alternate/additional reason for the fact that Jasper is becoming more popular. For me, Jasper has always been the one character in Twilight (apart from maybe Leah) who is seriously flawed, in more ways than one. Edward is perfect and angelic and beautiful, but Jasper is dark and conflicted, and therefore has a level of depth and that appeals to readers/authors looking for a more complex characterization--whether in or out of canon. Alice's back story is also relatively dark, and so the exploration of their relationship and what led them to one another, and what made them not only right, but *perfect* for one another, is wonderfully interesting.

Anyway, that's my opinion. Again, since I'm a Jasper/Alice writer, I'm really appreciative that you devoted an entire episode to the discussion of the my favorite Twilight character.

Anonymous Says :
May 30, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Nice discussion. Jasper is one of my favorite characters- he's got the makings of an excellent anti-hero. Let me list the points of interest (for me, anyway):
1) He's got a conscience and a weakness that provide a major, legitimate conflict within him.
2) Although it's only stated rather than shown that he's charismatic, in the hands of a caring, capable writer, this could be developed into something. I've yet to read all (or most) of the Jasper fic out there, but so far only the only one I've read that touches on this is Angstgoddess' Gemini & Gypsies story. I haven't started When Darkness Turns to light yet, but it's a tab on the browser just waiting for me, thanks to you guys.
3) His past is so dark, but he turned away from it on his own (or somewhat due to Peter and Charlotte). I like it that he didn't turn away from his past and his habits because of Alice, but rather met her when he was ready to turn. Otherwise you'd get the idea that his struggle is based mostly on his relationship and not his compassion.
4) Cannon Jasper to me seems like a deep, mostly untapped well. He's the second oldest of the main vampires, and his place within the family is the most ambiguous. I think the cannon story of his romance with Alice was too easy, and I felt cheated. I would love to read a really good version of the story in which there would be a slightly more realistic coming together of these two. Alice could know about him, but complex Jasper would and should have a more suitable response to the situation. It doesn't necessarily have to be AU, if it were understood that the story they tell others is a simplified version of what happened. After he tells her he's sorry, ma'am, that doesn't have to be the extent of his acceptance of what she already knows.

dazzled eyes22 Says :
June 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I truly liked your Jasper discussion. I now understand more about why writers are using Jasper more in fan fics. I love the character of Jasper because he is the perfect foil for Alice and they have this predestined love. I would like read more of Jasper/Alice fics where they explore their time and meeting before they approached the Cullens.

I agree with Claire though that I have a problem with Jasper/Bella stories because they destroy the fabric of the Cullen family by hurting Alice and Edward. I have tried to read several and find they usually make Edward either the sexually repressed guy who frustrates Bella enough to choose lust over love or he is away, cheats or dies. If Edward gets her back from Jasper, his character is weaker because he is meant to measure up or she'll leave.

I was surprised but very happy that Claire also defended Edward's bond with Bella knowing she was a staunch Jacob supporter. The dynamic that SM set up makes it that Bella is the first woman that Edward loved in his long life, so that makes it hard to believe he will find someone else. I think the podcast handled this discussion in a very well balanced manner. I look forward to the next topic debated on the podcast.

Tempation Staff Says :
June 3, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Links fixed. Sorry it took so long.

Dori (xsecretxkeeperx) Says :
June 4, 2009 at 4:57 AM

Oh, god, the Jasper vs. Edward vs. Emmett convo had me cracking up so hard. Edward is definitely my preference, but I love all three of course. The thing I don't understand about Jas/Bel is that Alice and Jasper were supposed to be made for each other. They go wherever the other goes and for either to cheat or choose someone else just makes my blood boil. AH is easier to get away with, but... yeah. You guys discussed it about breaking up the family and it's absolutely true. There's too much at stake for that to happen and be a good non-depressing story.

And I can't say that I agree with the New Moon, Edward never came back, Jasper ends up with Bella thing either. That just seems like a slap in the face. Edward left BECAUSE of Jasper almost killing Bella and then Jasper gets the girl while Edward suffers for the rest of eternity? It just doesn't sit well with me.

As for Jake and Bella being canon, no! Bella was only with Jake because Edward wasn't there. There were reasons for Bella falling in love with Jake and I accept that, but she would never choose Jake especially since her Jake is minimal after he turns into a wearwolf. I'll shut up on that now, lol. I can rant about Eclipse and that whole mess of a book for ages.

- Dori

Random note: I win for tallness ^_^ My cousin is 7'2" and his "short" brother is 6'6." Seriously, my family is huge.

Dori (xsecretxkeeperx) Says :
June 4, 2009 at 5:20 AM

So, I checked Smut Mondays for Limona's one-shot, but it wasn't there. Any one know what happened with that?

Anonymous Says :
May 28, 2010 at 11:22 PM

i love you guys so much but what is this gazebo that you speak of i want to know more and i agree with my team emmett chick my list goes Emmet then Jasper thenn edward i love emmett sssoooo much and i love that you rec. all these fan fictions it makes me happy but i really wonder if you have a slash episode lik JUST SLASH but sorry i keep bringing this up but my brain runs on slash fics

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